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 ====== Popcorn scale ======
-The **popcorn scale** is the proprietary rating system of //[[ocatc]]//. Instead of mainstream rating systems that use a scale of four stars or two thumbs up or down, //On Cinema at the Cinema// features a system where a movie can be rated anywhere from one to five bags of popcorn, though it is disputed if five bags of popcorn is the maximum a movie can be rated, or if a six bag rating is possible.
+The **popcorn scale** is the proprietary rating system of //[[ocatc]]//. Instead of mainstream rating systems that use a scale of four stars or two thumbs up or down, //On Cinema at the Cinema// features a system where a movie can be rated anywhere from one to five bags of popcorn, though it is disputed if five bags of popcorn is the maximum a movie can be rated, or if a six bag rating is possible. According to host [[tim]], "the laws of physics demand" regular movies must have at least one bag of popcorn, and there is no such thing as "zero bags of popcorn" for movies.[(cite:s07e01>[[s07e01]])] However, zero bag ratings were given for things that were not movies, such as [[documentary|documentaries]].
-In addition to bags of popcorn, additional objects can be added to a movie of exceptional quality. Host [[tim]] prefers to give up to two sodas for movies that he particularly enjoyed. Frequent guest and resident movie expert [[gregg]] instead chooses various themed gifts related to the movie as mementos of the experience.
+In addition to bags of popcorn, additional objects can be added to a movie of exceptional quality. Tim prefers to give up to two sodas for movies that he particularly enjoyed. Frequent guest and resident movie expert [[gregg]] instead chooses various themed gifts related to the movie as mementos of the experience. Actor [[john]] once used a plus sign to signify his extreme enjoyment of //The Colony//.[(cite:s03e08>[[s03e08]])]
-Recently, [[oncinema#on_cinema_on_demand|On Cinema On Demand]] seems to be forgoing the popcorn scale, with host [[joey]] giving star ratings in his [[joeystake]] segment. Turkington continues to give bag ratings, and converts Patrocelli's star ratings to the popcorn scale for the convenience of viewers.
+The popcorn scale was one of the staples of //On Cinema at the Cinema//, having been implemented from the [[s01e01|very first episode]]. Given Gregg's insistence on the rules of the scale, and his attachment to it throughout the series, (even using it personally for his own [[codingsystem|internal coding system]],) it can be inferred that he may have had a direct hand in the development of the rating system before the show aired.
+//[[season14|On Cinema On Demand]]// appeared to forgo the popcorn scale, with host [[joey]] giving star ratings in his "[[joeystake]]" segment. Gregg continues to give bag ratings, and converts Joey's star ratings to the popcorn scale for the convenience of viewers, however, no graphical representation was provided alongside the bag rating.
+<WRAP todo>This list below can be expanded.</WRAP>
+===== Rare popcorn ratings =====
+Tim's ratings almost always range around 4 - 6 bags of popcorn, while Gregg's are almost always 5. Some exceptions have occurred before:
+==== 0-3 scores from Tim ====
+  * In [[s07e01|S07E01]], Tim scathingly reviews //[[antman]]//, which cast Gregg as [[dale]], giving it **1 bag of popcorn**. Notably, he gives //[[fantasticfour]]//, a film that cast Tim in a minor role, 6 bags in the same episode. With Gregg recusing himself from reviewing //Ant-Man//, this makes //Ant-Man// the lowest scored film ever in the series.
+  * In [[s11e04|S11E04]], Tim gives //[[misteramerica]]//, the documentary about his district attorney campaign, **0 bags of popcorn**, calling it so full of lies and mischaracterization and lambasting director [[josh]] for ignoring his instructions on what to include and exclude.
+==== 0-4 bag scores from Gregg ====
+  * Gregg gave //Getaway// **2 bags of popcorn** in [[s03e09|S03E09]], calling it "not a great movie."
+  * Gregg also gives //Mister America// a low score in [[s11e04|S11E04]], lamenting all the unused footage of the VFA that Josh Lorton could have used instead. He gives the film **3 bags of popcorn**.
+==== 7+ bag scores from Tim ====
+==== 6+ bag scores from Gregg ====
+  * [[s01e01|S01E01]]: Gregg gives //Flight// a sixth extra bag of popcorn for the performance by John Goodman.
+===== Star ratings =====
+Occasionally, popcorn ratings are accidentally replaced with stars during a review.
+  * In [[s01e08|S01E08]], Tim temporarily gives //Zero Dark Thirty// **3 stars**, with Gregg following with **4 stars**. Tim commenting that a 4 star general would most likely be involved in the story of the movie reminds Gregg of the error, and the two quickly revert their reviews to **3 bags** and **4 bags**, respectively.
+  * Also in [[s01e08|S01E08]], Tim almost gives Monsters, Inc. 3D **3 stars**, but immediately clarifies to **3 bags**.
+  * In [[s01e09|S01E09]], Tim stops himself from giving //Cirque du Soleil: Worlds Away// **5 stars**, and instead eventually rates it **4 bags**.
+  * In [[s04e05|S04E05]], Tim gives //The LEGO Movie// **3 stars** in a swift five-word review.
+  * Star ratings were a prominent aspect in //[[season14]]// where new co-host [[joey]] only used the star rating during his review segment "[[joeystake]]". Like old movie reviewers in the past, Joey's star rating scale never went past 4 stars, and half-stars were used often. The change was controversial to some guests, such as Gregg and [[joe]], who repeatedly expressed confusion or annoyance on the change the to the tried and true rating scale 14 seasons in.
+==== Star-to-popcorn conversion scale ====
+During //OCOD//, Gregg would frequently convert Joey's ratings to the popcorn scale, although occasionally his conversions would be incorrect. Assuming Joey would never go past 4 stars, and knowing Gregg's opinion that the popcorn scale stops at 5 bags, this is what a proper conversion scale for Joey's ratings would look like:
+^ Star rating ^ Popcorn rating ^
+| 0           | 0              |
+| .5          | .625           |
+| 1           | 1.25           |
+| 1.5         | 1.875          |
+| 2           | 2.5            |
+| 2.5         | 3.125          |
+| 3           | 3.75           |
+| 3.5         | 4.375          |
+| 4           | 5              |
+The proper formula to convert a star rating to a popcorn rating is
+* (r / 4)
+where **r** is the **star rating** provided by a critic like Joey.
+===== Other ratings =====
+Occasionally, ratings have been given to things that are not movies. While [[documentary|documentaries]] were rated with the popcorn scale (though often getting zero bags for not being movies,) other rating systems have been implemented for other forms of media.
+  * Food, specifically popcorn, was rated on a 0-5 [[vhs|VHS]] tape scale. Tapes were chosen as the rating scale as an fun inversion of the usual convention of movies being rated by bags of popcorn.[(cite:s03e03>[[s03e03]])]
+  * Gregg once rated a //[[startrek]]// novelization 2 bags of popcorn.[(cite:s03e07>[[s03e07]])] No other unique rating system has been suggested for books.
+  * Songs, specifically //[[ourvalues]]//, were rated on a 1-5 American flag scale. This scale was only used on the On Cinema Trading Card for //Our Values are Under Attack//.
+  * A 1-5 pretzel bag scale was proposed for television shows by [[gregg]], though it was never officially implemented.[(cite:s13e04>[[s13e04]])]
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