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 ====== Star Trek ======
-**//Star Trek//** is an American media franchise, consisting of numerous television shows and movies. It stars the crew of the starship USS Enterprise, as they travel the stars.
+**//Star Trek//** is an American media franchise, consisting of numerous television shows and movies. It stars the crew of the starship USS //Enterprise//, as they travel the stars.
-===== San Francisco Controversy =====
+There is some debate on //[[oncinema|On Cinema]]// as to which movie in the original series of films takes place in [[wp>San Francisco]]. Host [[tim]] has stated his position that he believes that //Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home// is single film in the series primarily set in San Francisco, while his guest [[gregg]] insists that only //Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan// takes place in the city.
-There is some debate as to which movie in the original series of films takes place in San Francisco. [[tim]] has stated on //[[oncinema|On Cinema]]// that he believes that //Star Trek IV// takes place in San Francisco, while his guest [[gregg]] insists that //Star Trek II// is set there.
+===== Episodes featuring the San Francisco debate =====
+  * //[[pod8]]// focuses on a retrospective of //Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan//. Gregg off-handedly mentions it takes place in San Francisco, in modern times, which Tim disputes. The rest of the episode becomes a discussion as to if Gregg is thinking of //Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home//.
+  * //[[pod36]]// features [[hoffman]], a writer for StarTrek.com, as a special guest. Tim asks Jordan to settle the debate, and Jordan states that Tim is correct and that //Star Trek IV// is the film taking place in San Francisco. Gregg suggests Jordan may be confused due to the numbering, similar to initial confusion caused by the way //Star Wars// movies were numbered out of release order.
+  * During [[s01e09|S01E09]], Tim brings //Star Trek IV// as his own [[popcornclassics|Popcorn Classic]]. He uses the synopsis on the back of the tape to posit that the movie takes place in San Francisco. Gregg suggests that the tape brought in is a pirated copy, due to the lack of visible security seal, and therefore the synopsis is unreliable.
+  * [[s03e07|S03E07]]'s installment of //[[onlocation]]// took Gregg to Kearney Street in San Francisco, where he compared the current-day street to stills of the //Enterprise// crew, attempting to prove once and for all that //Star Trek II// was the film shot in San Francisco. Tim refutes the claim, stating that the stills of the crew were taken from //Star Trek IV//, not //II// as Gregg claimed. He then produces a novelization of //Star Trek IV//, using its printed synopsis to demonstrate that the plot takes place in San Francisco. Gregg suggests that the novelization is an unofficial release that covers the first four //Star Trek// films, similar to how //[[lotr|The Hobbit]]// films have three movies covered by a single book. Frustrated, Tim then fires Gregg from the show, but brings him back a couple episodes later.
+  * [[s04e09|S04E09]] features a game of [[stumpthebuff]] in which Gregg is shown still images from various films, and must identify the films they come from. For the fifth and final question, with $1000 at stake, he is shown a still of //Star Trek IV//. He answers //Star Trek II//, and is marked incorrect by Tim.
+  * In [[s08e01|S08E01]], Gregg, in his review of //Star Trek Beyond//, describes it as "the best //Star Trek// movie since //Star Trek II//, which was set in San Francisco." Tim appears annoyed, but decides not to engage.
+{{tag>movies star_trek}}